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	<title>Comments on: No Sun-shine for Killersoft?</title>
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		<title>By: Tim Bray</title>
		<link>http://claylo.com/no-sun-shine-for-killersoft/comment-page-1#comment-75</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Bray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Brion&#039;s right, PHP5 is slower than PHP4 on Niagara, no idea why (yet), doesn&#039;t make any sense, we&#039;re on it.  I mean, PHP is shared-nothing, should use all those threads beautifully... stand by.

-Tim Bray (Sun web geek)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Brion&#8217;s right, PHP5 is slower than PHP4 on Niagara, no idea why (yet), doesn&#8217;t make any sense, we&#8217;re on it.  I mean, PHP is shared-nothing, should use all those threads beautifully&#8230; stand by.</p>
<p>-Tim Bray (Sun web geek)</p>
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		<title>By: David Rodger</title>
		<link>http://claylo.com/no-sun-shine-for-killersoft/comment-page-1#comment-74</link>
		<dc:creator>David Rodger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 05:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it&#039;s as fast as they say, maybe you&#039;ll still smoke everything else!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it&#8217;s as fast as they say, maybe you&#8217;ll still smoke everything else!</p>
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		<title>By: Clay</title>
		<link>http://claylo.com/no-sun-shine-for-killersoft/comment-page-1#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>Clay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 04:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brion - wow, that&#039;s really disappointing. Several of the applications and tools that I&#039;ve written recently are PHP 5-based, so there&#039;s no going back without a re-write. And I won&#039;t be doing a re-write for PHP 4, no matter how much free hardware gets thrown at me. ;)

I read a few comments on your post, and am curious if there is any system tuning that can be done as someone there mentioned? I guess if there were tweaks, the Sun guys would be telling you about those instead of telling you to use PHP 4. That&#039;s just not a cool answer.

Well, I&#039;ll keep my fingers crossed. I&#039;d be interested in running the kinds of benchmarks you&#039;ve done against PHP 5 with and without Zend Platform. For the basic loop you did, Zend Platform won&#039;t help ... but since ZP runs on Solaris, there may be some boot from the application performance standpoint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brion &#8211; wow, that&#8217;s really disappointing. Several of the applications and tools that I&#8217;ve written recently are PHP 5-based, so there&#8217;s no going back without a re-write. And I won&#8217;t be doing a re-write for PHP 4, no matter how much free hardware gets thrown at me. <img src='http://claylo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I read a few comments on your post, and am curious if there is any system tuning that can be done as someone there mentioned? I guess if there were tweaks, the Sun guys would be telling you about those instead of telling you to use PHP 4. That&#8217;s just not a cool answer.</p>
<p>Well, I&#8217;ll keep my fingers crossed. I&#8217;d be interested in running the kinds of benchmarks you&#8217;ve done against PHP 5 with and without Zend Platform. For the basic loop you did, Zend Platform won&#8217;t help &#8230; but since ZP runs on Solaris, there may be some boot from the application performance standpoint.</p>
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		<title>By: Brion Vibber</title>
		<link>http://claylo.com/no-sun-shine-for-killersoft/comment-page-1#comment-73</link>
		<dc:creator>Brion Vibber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 03:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve been testing a T2000 with so far mediocre results (&lt;a href=&quot;http://community.livejournal.com/wikitech/16665.html&quot;&gt;http://community.livejournal.com/wikitech/16665.html&lt;/a&gt;).

The Sun guys are telling us that PHP 5 runs much slower on their systems than PHP 4 and are recommending PHP 4. That&#039;s a bit disappointing, as we&#039;ve just transitioned all our servers to 5.1 and plan to start taking advantage of new features in our coding... Hopefully we can get to the bottom of this and they can get decent performance out of modern PHP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve been testing a T2000 with so far mediocre results (<a href="http://community.livejournal.com/wikitech/16665.html">http://community.livejournal.com/wikitech/16665.html</a>).</p>
<p>The Sun guys are telling us that PHP 5 runs much slower on their systems than PHP 4 and are recommending PHP 4. That&#8217;s a bit disappointing, as we&#8217;ve just transitioned all our servers to 5.1 and plan to start taking advantage of new features in our coding&#8230; Hopefully we can get to the bottom of this and they can get decent performance out of modern PHP.</p>
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